Tuesday, October 27, 2009

brief report on the conference

Friends: This is my maiden voyage into the blogosphere, and I suspect it'll be short-lived (if long-winded). But I appreciate Rose making space for those who weren't able or sufficiently interested to attend the “Unhewn Stone” gathering.

I will let you all know when the talks & music from that gathering are posted, and where, as is the intention of the organizers. In brief, here's what I regarded as interesting and important about the Philly conference (I'm debriefing out loud, so bear with me):
  1. Every one of the some 150 participants (except the "elders" I invited, a couple from Reba Place and a couple of local Quakers) was under 35 years of age. That in itself seems significant.
  2. There was a spectrum of views. I would characterize three groupings (excluding us older folk), who roughly constituted a third each of the whole:
    a) "anarcho-primitivist veterans," most of whom are coming from either Catholic Worker-type or post-evangelical experiences, with the weight on the latter. I sensed a mix of class backgrounds, both working class and suburban middle class.
    b) local & regional progressive Christians involved in everything from inner city justice work to urban gardening/permaculture (e.g. some folk from Simple Way, the Center for Transformation in Camden, and the Alternative Seminary)
    c) "civilization-skeptic-curious" from around the region (including some folk from Cookman United Methodist Church locally).
    The thing to note is that they all seemed very interested in this conversation.
  3. Of the veterans, most of them knew each other and were from the midwest, southeast and northeast. They follow each other's bands on the road, and have built social networks the old school way (several are completely off the grid so don't do the electronic thing). Music is very important to them. It’s an eclectic mix of ethnic, punk, folk, drumming, gospel, etc.; very loud and trancey (I don't know, how would you describe it Charlie?). The Sat. night dance-rave-worship was for me the most revealing window into their subculture. I found it really engaging, if hard on the ears. Felt my age—but I’d love to work with Psalters sometime. I dig their groove, and Jay Beck (who did most of the organizing of this conference) is really passionate about this, and has a beautiful spirit.
  4. Underneath the tattoos, piercings and dreads (which seem to represent a ubiquitous "uniform" in their circles), however, I perceived a strong substratum of old non-denominational, evangelical subculture, from theological preconception to praise-music expressionism. So there are real biblical and political literacy issues, but also much enthusiasm and sincere commitment. At several moments we challenged the group that no matter how “radical” the A-P analytical framework might be, it didn’t relieve participants from doing their race, class and gender work, and learning from movement history. Of particular help here was Nekeisha Alexis-Baker of the Jesus Radicals website, an African American, who kept stressing that as important as personal lifestyle liberation may be, “your tattoos do nothing to liberate me.” Good perspectives on native culture and the problem of expropriation and solidarity were raised both by Jim Perkinson and Lily Mendosa (who did a fabulous job grounding the analysis in the struggle against empire), as well as Jenn LeBlanc, a young Miq’maq from Ontario, Canada, and an emerging leader in the indigenous Christian movement. Andrea Feyrich of the Center for Transformation, an urban garden/greenhouse/ retreat center in Camden also impressed me with her deep grasp of permaculture and theology.
  5. There was real interest in the biblical material (I gave an overview of the Genesis 1-11 material as well as Luke 12 and Rom 5). I had the impression that folk couldn’t get enough of it, which further attests to their evangelical background. Most of the material we presented was pretty basic, and many are eager to get deeper into other texts and to explore A-P readings of scripture, theology, history, culture, etc. Significantly, Andy Lewis (who is probably the most passionate ideologue of this circle) reckons that at this point in the U.S. scene, most of those espousing or interested in Anarcho-Primitivism are Christians! This trend is of course extremely annoying to hard core secular anarchists, but it seems to be dawning on a central proponent, John Zerzan, who keeps talking about it on his radio show. (To wit, he’s on tonight, 10/27, and will be discussing the Philly conference. You can listen live at 7 pm PDT at the KWVA 88.1 web site; the call-in # is 541-346-0645 if you want to participate).
  6. The handful of serious practitioners of so-called “primitive skills” were really impressive. It's cool to see young adults so deeply committed to learning old arts, from spinning & weaving to herbalism & foraging to skinning & tanning—and so eager to share their skills. Passing on these arts is the centerpiece of the "rewilding" workshops that have taken place in various places, and we older folk who haven’t gone too feral have a lot to learn from them. It helps keep "real" ideas that can easily otherwise remain romantic and rhetorical. Daniel Baker would be interested to know that one couple who are way off the grid see Corbett’s Goatwalking as their bible, and are actually practicing it. They in turn were thrilled to meet persons who actually knew Jim (I urged them to get to Cascabel to see you Daniel).
  7. All the “elders” did a great job of listening, dialoguing, and being present. Jim and Lily made great presentations, and Liz McAlister, Will O’Brien, Gordon Oyer, Charlie King, Ed Nakawatese, Jeff Dietrich and Ms. Wilimina from Cookman all helped with ritual, prayer and feedback. Their presence was invaluable, and I think most enjoyed seeing this slice of the movement.
  8. What did this conference mean to me personally? First, it was quite enjoyable, if somewhat chaotic. Second, I’ve been having theological conversations about A-P perspectives “offline” (as Kazi Joshua puts it) with many of you over the last 15 years, and it is delightful that suddenly there is a wider community of interest that is passionate about figuring out what it might mean to embody these views. At the same time, there are sectarian, drop-out and survivalist tendencies in some of these circles that are all too familiar, and I feel a certain responsibility to try to keep these young radicals engaged in the deep, long-term traditions of faith-based resistance and renewal. To me this means that some of us are going to have to “come out of the closet” more publicly concerning our convictions on these matters, which are obviously on the extreme feral edge of theological and political discourse.

There's more to say, but enough for now; apologies for the length of this post. On balance, it’s still hard to discern as yet where and how the A-P subculture will fit into the overall picture of contemporary radical Christian thought and practice. But it’s an important enough question to me that I will continue to stay in conversation with these folks. How about you?

Wednesday, October 21, 2009

Nice to see Laurel Dykstra while I was in the Seattle-area and she was down from Vancouver, BC. Also got to see her girls! What fun. It sounds like Laurel's got some interesting writing projects going on as she waits for the "call to a curacy" in the Anglican Church of Canada. It's great to keep up these connections.

Friday, October 16, 2009

From Rose Berger --poverty as a spiritual value

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/documentaries/2009/09/090921_heartsoul_190909.shtml

Here's a very good radio show looking at poverty from Jain, Jewish, and Ayn Randish capitalist perspective.--Rose


"The Value of Poverty as Spiritual Expression"
Heart and Soul on the BBC

At a time of global recession, politicians say we must consume more to save our economies. But religious leaders condemn greed and excess and remind us of the value of poverty.

In Heart and Soul, Ernie Rea and his guests discuss whether adopting poverty as a spiritual practice can have advantages.

Can spiritual fulfilment be found in wealth and possessions or should these be given away in pursuit of higher goals?

Lively debate with Rabbi Jackie Tabick, the first female reform rabbi in the UK, Dr Atul Shah, former editor of a magazine on Jainism, and Richard D North, author of the book ‘Rich is beautiful: a very Personal Defence of Mass Affluence’.

Thursday, October 15, 2009

From Rose Berger

There seems to be some energy here to online community and conversation. I’m also interested in digging into this stuff more deeply and send prayers to everyone attending the Philly gathering. I’m very sorry to miss it. [Note: Lift up a prayer for my sister-in-law Michelle who just had major surgery for kidney cancer. I’m headed to Edmonds, WA from 10/16-10/25 to take care of my niece and nephews for the week, in case any of you are also there.]

As per David’s comment, it seems like there could be an innovative way of carrying on online conversation that tracks these threads. I threw up (ick) an e-blog at http://unhewnstone.blogspot.com/ that is limited to all the people in this e-list (right now, no one else can comment on the blog or read it, but all of you can) and I’ve sent email invitations to this e-list. Maybe this is a helpful way to keep the conversation going. If we decide to migrate the conversation to someone’s permanent web site (feral Christian or ched myers or rosemarieberger ) then it’s not hard to do that.

If the eblog thing works and you want me to add folks, just send me their email and I’ll add them.

Love to you all—

Rose

Book/Resource suggestions:

>Kelly Johnson's Fear of Beggars: Stewardship and Poverty in Christian Ethics

>Theodore Hiebert's The Yahwist's Landscape: Nature and Religion in Early Israel

>Rita Nakashima Brock and Rebecca Ann Parker’s Saving Paradise: How Christianity Traded Love of This World for Crucifixion and Empire

From Steve Clemens

I, too, would love to be kept in the loop for this on-going discussion. Sorry, I can't be in Philly but would love it if someone records the input sessions and makes them available (maybe on the new ChedMyers.com site?)

From Charlie King

Friends, Thanks for initiating this discussion about an on-line sharing on relevant biblical themes. I'll be at the Phila. conference, largely a new exploration for me tho I've been bookin' it to prepare the soil. Please keep me in the loop for forther discussion. Charlie

From Barbara Zelter

Barbara Zelter here, from Colgate Rochester Crozer Div. School in Rochester, NY, a late-age MA Theology student now again in my childhood neighborhood, taking a break from decades of community organizing in NC. I don't know you all, but like this outcropping of discussion from the circle of those Ched invited to PA. Thank you for your recommendations for reading and thought.

Let me just name one book that was not part of any course here but new to me and really fine, eye-opening as it described the art of the church's first 600 years (pre-Charlemagne) depicting primarily the tree of life and Edenic rivers of plenty, not the suffering cross. Well-written and illuminating, it's a reconstruction of the theology of bounty as expressed in the early church:

Saving Paradise: How Christianity Traded Love of This World for Crucifixion and Empire, by Rita Nakashima Brock and Rebecca Ann Parker, Beacon Press, Boston, 2008.

BZ

From David F

Greetings everybody,

About 12 or so years ago I registered the domain name “feralchristian.com” in hopes that I might stimulate some sort of dialogue around an emerging body of insights that had been grabbing me for quite a few years prior, having to do with the bible’s persistent call to undomestication and reindigenization throughout its witness. Ched and I had been talking about this stuff since the early 90’s when it became apparent we had reached similar points in our engagements with scripture, he from his peace and justice work and study, and I from work in the arts, liturgy, and reflection on the metaphoric consciousness of Jesus.

However, it turned out I was more “web-averse” than I had bargained on, and so have only one meager, introductory piece on the site:

http://www.feralchristian.com
(the rock heap turns into an ENTER button)

The renewed energy in these responses to Ched’s invitation to us is encouraging, though! I for one would appreciate following through in multi-logue on all this from the many vantage points we all are coming from. Maybe I’ll even be inspired to learn how to build a proper website that can host some of the “alt-study” materials that Wes refers to. (Really, no promises here!)

In the meantime, I just want to add my voice to those who sense an emerging focus of biblical engagement that can move us beyond the descriptive/referential theologies that have so distorted the gospel call to participation in God’s astonishing gratuities. I greatly look forward to whatever comes of this.

peace & blessings,

david

from Wes HB

Laurel,
Thanks for your thoughts and reflections. I'm writing back to encourage the possibility of the kind of "alt-study" of biblical materials that we can't find anywhere else. Most of us probably can't afford, in time or money, to do a lot of traveling around, but we might be able to find spaces in between everything else to offer thoughts on a specific book or biblical topic. Given the amount of biblical garbage on the internet, this would be a very refreshing and exciting possibility.

The Hiebert book, as much as I can see online, looks interesting, although I no longer "believe in" the "Yahwist." But maybe that's a conversation, too! Anyone interested in engaging some of the questions I'm raising in my book in progress ("Come Out My People": God's Call Out of Empire From the Beginning to the End)? Feedback and stimulating discussion from folks like you would be really helpful.

Blessings,
Wes

from Laurel Dykstra

Hello all,

I wanted wish everyone who will be attending this event an engaging and challenging time. I spent a lot of time thinking about whether what I might get and what I might give was worth the monetary and environmental cost of a plane ticket (and I laughed about taking a plane to a primitivist event). In the end family events, homeschooling/unschooling with the girs (who are now 8!) and a community construction project swayed my decision to stay close to home.

But I was really engaged/intrigued/stimulated by the invitation (to an event that I think of myself as neither anarchist nor primitivist enough for) and the short flurry of e-correspondence that followed. I had considered attending the women's gathering at the CW farm in Iowa and was looking forward to hearing the report back. (Particularly as the reading list for that event had struck me as heavily male and doctrinaire in contrast to the very practical proposed activities)

But what I was most excited about was the opportunity to talk bible with folk "experimenting in truth." I have some questions about how feral/primitivist the biblical vision(s) are, and the relationship of those visions to subsistence agriculture. where is the ancient and where is the modern romanticism and where is the practical resistance? What does the difference between the two mean for us?

On a sort of tangential, and perhaps less radical, track I was thinking too about the notion of "steward" and "stewardship" as the kind of middle class/mainstream way of understanding environmentalism (and church fianance). It is an idea that churches are (to make a bad pun) deeply invested in. And I would be interested in reading Kelly Johnson's Fear of Beggars: Stewardship and Poverty in Christian Ethics and Theodore Hiebert's The Yahwist's Landscape: Nature and Religion in Early Israel with others, thinking critically about that model, looking at/for others.

So having chosen not to attend I am grateful for the invitation, I hope that you will keep me in the loop and if the conversations I hoped for and imagined are of interest to anyone perhaps we can have them electronically or somewhere closer to BC.

Love and Blessing to you all.

Laurel

from Daniel Baker

Dear Ched et al,

Thank you very much for the invitation. It so happens that so-called anarcho-primitivism is something that I have rather intensively thought about and lived out these past fifteen years, both in a religious and secular context. Thus the topic of the conference does indeed interest me, and I expect that I could enjoy the addresses and some good conversation.

Nonetheless, as Charlie points out, there is a question of not only WIFM, but WIFT (what’s in it for them). For my part, it would be a long trip from southern Arizona, and I do have a previous engagement for those dates, though likely not immutable.

For their part, I’m not sure what great advantage would accrue to my standing around being a presumed elder/mentor/resource person. I’m not sure what appropriate wisdom I would have to interject in the first place, and furthermore I am not a very outgoing person such as to inveigle my views or experience into the center of things.

Neither am I sure what help I would be to your concerns as a mentor Ched, since my views are pretty idiosyncratic (in that regard rather like Jim Corbett’s, though otherwise often quite dissimilar). In good anarchistic style I do not consider myself a part of that “movement” such as it is, and possibly do not even consider myself a part of “the wider/deeper movement” that you address. I can imagine some of the tensions that would surface with those of more sociological, political and Marxist orientations.

Well, those speak to some of my reservations, which at this point seem sufficiently considerable for me to be hesitant despite my interest. Nonetheless I do send my best wishes for a very vital, engaging and enjoyable conference on such an interesting topic.

Warmest regards,

Daniel Baker

Any chance you could come to a conference on green anarchism and Christianity in Philly?

Dear Liz, Bill, Bron, Rose, Wes, David F, Dave K, Marie, Barbara, Charlie, Christina, Danny, Mas, Elizabeth, John, Jonathan, Kate F, Kate S, Jeff, Laurel, Ed, and Steve:



I wanted each of you to be aware of an upcoming gathering in Philadelphia that you may find of interest, and for which I could use your help. It is titled “Gathering Around the Unhewn Stone: Biblical Explorations of Nature, Civilization, and Feral Faith,” and will be Oct. 16-18. It is sponsored by Circle of Hope (www.circleofhope.net), Croatan Studio (www.gonetocroatan.org), and an anarcho-primitivist journal called In the Land of the Living (www.inthelandoftheliving.org). In true anarchist style, there’s no charge for the conference (see www.inthelandoftheliving.org/news-1/eventgatheringaroundtheun-hewnstone).



I’ll be giving a fair bit of input, and invited Jim Perkinson and Lily Mendosa to help, so they’ll be there. What is most interesting to me about this gathering is that it will be almost exclusively folks under 40, mostly Catholic Worker and post-evangelical types. There seems to be a lot of interest brewing among younger radical Christians in primitivist critiques of civilization, and some of them have really seized upon the few articles I’ve written on the subject. This will be the second time I’ve met with this crowd, and many of them were with John Zerzan at the Christianity and Anarchism conference last month in Memphis. There is a lot of momentum—could be up to 200 people attending—and I see this conference as an opportunity for vigorous dialogue with a particular, strategic strand of the next generation of activists, many of whom are pretty “feral” and very passionate. You’ll get a sense of the scope by looking at the attached schedule.



My concern is to provide encouragement to those who attend, but also a little perspective and “eldering.” As I’ve thought about this gathering, I’ve become increasingly clear that the kind of wisdom that many of you have embodied at Word and World gatherings is much needed! So here’s my ask: if any of you could possibly find a way to make it to this conference, you could really help with the task of helping these younger colleagues get a context in the wider/deeper movement. Perhaps you know of others who might be interested, but I’m asking the 22 of you because each of you has interest in this topic, and a lot of experience in mentoring younger folk. I know it’s a lot to ask, but I hope you’ll think about it. I believe this gathering could really benefit from your presence—and I think you’d enjoy it too.



Let me know if you can come, so I can think how to weave you into the mix. And feel free to make any suggestions. If you can’t make it, do hold us in the Light. Thanks.



Ched



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